Print salary receipts to a pdf image

Rafael

You could scan the blank form and insert the saved image into a blank report design and then overlay the parts of the form that need to be completed with the usual report controls

Paul Newton

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I have the following requirement:

Print a salary receipt to a company form, previously generated as a pdf file

The application calculates the monthly salaries of the company's personel and issues a salary receipt for each employee.
Now they print the receipt to a preprinted form with te company logo and the Treasurer's signature But they want to have the blank form, with the logo and static text, including the officer's signature on the form, to be filled with the salary data, employee name, deductions, etc and print the whole on a blank sheet by a laser printer.
In this way the company will save the cost of having preprinted forms. They will simply use a letter size sheet to print each receipt

What do you suggest, please?
What about FoxyPreviewer, or any other software?

Perhaps ask the printing company to scan a blank form and produce a pdf file, or another image file?

Please advise

Thank you

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Alan Bourke

2018-09-14 09:01:18 UTC

Maybe I'm missing something but would you not just design a normal VFP report with the logo graphic and whatever boxes and lines are required, reproducing the pre-printed stationery, and print that to PDF via XFRX or whatever?
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Paul Newton

2018-09-14 09:13:48 UTC

Which is exactly what we have done for our HMRC P60s

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Maybe I'm missing something but would you not just design a normal VFP report with the logo graphic and whatever boxes and lines are required, reproducing the pre-printed stationery, and print that to PDF via XFRX or whatever?
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Rafael Copquin

2018-09-14 14:53:27 UTC

Perhaps I was not very clear.

I have scanned the empty receipt as a pdf image.
I want to fill it with the applicable data and then print it on a laser
printer

I can't use the vfp report writer because it will not take a pdf file as an
image. And if I use a jpg file instead, it will not allow me to make it fit
in the page with the right shape.

Rafael

Post by Alan Bourke
Maybe I'm missing something but would you not just design a normal VFP
report with the logo graphic and whatever boxes and lines are required,
reproducing the pre-printed stationery, and print that to PDF via XFRX or
whatever?
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alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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Peter Cushing

2018-09-14 15:03:33 UTC

Post by Rafael Copquin
Perhaps I was not very clear.
I have scanned the empty receipt as a pdf image.
I want to fill it with the applicable data and then print it on a laser
printer
I can't use the vfp report writer because it will not take a pdf file as an
image. And if I use a jpg file instead, it will not allow me to make it fit
in the page with the right shape.

Like Alan suggested I think the easiest solution is to just create it
using the VFP report writer. Put all the words, lines, boxes etc using
the normal report writer tools and anything graphics like that you can't
create, put that in as a JPG or GIF. I have done that on loads of
reports here. You may be able to do the whole page as a watermark or
something like that and pretty sure there are people on the forum who
have done a full page watermark in VFP, but I'm sure the normal report
is easier.

Just my .02

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Stephen Russell

2018-09-14 15:40:33 UTC

In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that holds
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the data
to this program and it pumps out a mail merge like operation. There are a
few in open source as a guess. My last project to do this created a label
for cases that the grand jury approved for prosecution. The label had
columns for defendant's info as well as other court data. The PDF was the
seal for the court as well as labels for data.

Post by Peter Cushing

Post by Rafael Copquin
image. And if I use a jpg file instead, it will not allow me to make it

fit

Post by Rafael Copquin
in the page with the right shape.

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Charlie-gm

2018-09-14 17:21:15 UTC

The opinions are flying, so...

Post by Stephen Russell
In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that holds
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the data

...
This is a false statement. Document management systems do not use the
"print on top of PDF" design as "a given." The 2 document management
applications that I have worked on threw out this approach mostly
because of what Ted has pointed out. I've done other applications where
"document management" was a component and we also did not use it there.
One thing I have implemented regarding PDFs is an "archiving" function
(aka, exactly what was sent to the customer, user). Those components
simply printed output twice (once for the users, once to the logging
PDFs when then got placed back into the DB).

Post by Peter Cushing
Like Alan suggested I think the easiest solution is to just create it
using the VFP report writer. Put all the words, lines, boxes etc using
the normal report writer tools and anything graphics like that you can't

...
I'll second the "write-in-VFP" option for a couple reasons:
1) the output quality will be superb, and when generating paper for
users/customers, the quality of the finished product leaves lasting
impressions (don't forget about color! <g>)
2) there will be a huge payoff for future maintainability and
flexibility (got change in form, new form, more data? no problem!).

In fact, if your company would allow you, go ahead and send me
(***@acm.org) a scan or picture of the form and I'll get it started
for you (I generally use VFP9, but if you have earlier versions let me
know). The thing is, there are some features of the VFP Report Writer
that are hard to explain, but if you see them in action the lightbulb
comes on (for example, to put a box around the whole content, just
stretch a box from header to footer bands). So, while I may not have
time to do a complete form, I can probably set up the initial layout
which you could easily expand from there.

-Charlie

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Rafael Copquin

2018-09-14 18:42:27 UTC

Thnk you for your offer Charlie.

However, I would not want you to loose any time on this, since I came up
with a very simple solution, as described in a previous post.

I am curious though as to what document management systems you used in the
past.

have a nice weekend
Rafael

Post by Charlie-gm
The opinions are flying, so...

Post by Stephen Russell
In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that

holds

Post by Stephen Russell
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the data

...
1) the output quality will be superb, and when generating paper for
users/customers, the quality of the finished product leaves lasting
impressions (don't forget about color! <g>)
2) there will be a huge payoff for future maintainability and
flexibility (got change in form, new form, more data? no problem!).
In fact, if your company would allow you, go ahead and send me
for you (I generally use VFP9, but if you have earlier versions let me
know). The thing is, there are some features of the VFP Report Writer
that are hard to explain, but if you see them in action the lightbulb
comes on (for example, to put a box around the whole content, just
stretch a box from header to footer bands). So, while I may not have
time to do a complete form, I can probably set up the initial layout
which you could easily expand from there.
-Charlie

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Charlie-gm

2018-09-14 19:25:04 UTC

The doc mgmt systems I was referring to were ones we built (I was part
of the dev team). They were custom solutions.

-Charlie

Post by Rafael Copquin
Thnk you for your offer Charlie.
However, I would not want you to loose any time on this, since I came up
with a very simple solution, as described in a previous post.
I am curious though as to what document management systems you used in the
past.
have a nice weekend
Rafael

Post by Charlie-gm
The opinions are flying, so...

Post by Stephen Russell
In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that

holds

Post by Stephen Russell
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the data

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Rafael Copquin

2018-09-14 19:31:10 UTC

noted, thanks

Post by Charlie-gm
The doc mgmt systems I was referring to were ones we built (I was part
of the dev team). They were custom solutions.
-Charlie

the

Post by Rafael Copquin
past.
have a nice weekend
Rafael

Post by Charlie-gm
The opinions are flying, so...

Post by Stephen Russell
In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that

holds

Post by Stephen Russell
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the

data

Post by Charlie-gm
...
This is a false statement. Document management systems do not use the
"print on top of PDF" design as "a given." The 2 document management
applications that I have worked on threw out this approach mostly
because of what Ted has pointed out. I've done other applications where
"document management" was a component and we also did not use it there.
One thing I have implemented regarding PDFs is an "archiving" function
(aka, exactly what was sent to the customer, user). Those components
simply printed output twice (once for the users, once to the logging
PDFs when then got placed back into the DB).

Post by Peter Cushing
Like Alan suggested I think the easiest solution is to just create it
using the VFP report writer. Put all the words, lines, boxes etc

using

Post by Charlie-gm

Post by Peter Cushing
the normal report writer tools and anything graphics like that you

can't

Post by Charlie-gm
...
1) the output quality will be superb, and when generating paper for
users/customers, the quality of the finished product leaves lasting
impressions (don't forget about color! <g>)
2) there will be a huge payoff for future maintainability and
flexibility (got change in form, new form, more data? no problem!).
In fact, if your company would allow you, go ahead and send me

started

Post by Charlie-gm
for you (I generally use VFP9, but if you have earlier versions let me
know). The thing is, there are some features of the VFP Report Writer
that are hard to explain, but if you see them in action the lightbulb
comes on (for example, to put a box around the whole content, just
stretch a box from header to footer bands). So, while I may not have
time to do a complete form, I can probably set up the initial layout
which you could easily expand from there.
-Charlie

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Stephen Russell

2018-09-14 20:03:45 UTC

I was referring to ones my former employer sold back in 2008-2010.
Guessing that the program was called Liquid-Office and the actual product
was eForms. That was a while back and a lot of changes since then.

Post by Charlie-gm
The doc mgmt systems I was referring to were ones we built (I was part
of the dev team). They were custom solutions.
-Charlie

the

Post by Rafael Copquin
past.
have a nice weekend
Rafael

Post by Charlie-gm
The opinions are flying, so...

Post by Stephen Russell
In Document Management systems this is given. You set the shell that

holds

Post by Stephen Russell
the text objects in place on top of the pdf file. You then pass the

data

Post by Peter Cushing
Like Alan suggested I think the easiest solution is to just create it
using the VFP report writer. Put all the words, lines, boxes etc

using

Post by Charlie-gm

Post by Peter Cushing
the normal report writer tools and anything graphics like that you

can't

started

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Frank Cazabon

2018-09-14 15:10:13 UTC

If you can get the PDF as a fillable PDF form you can then use PDFtk to
fill the form from VFP.

Frank.

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Koen Piller

2018-09-14 16:57:22 UTC

Frank,

Ted is completely correct.
Just use VFP:
1) scan your given PDF form and extract the different images from that
file into separate .jpg files
2) create a dbf/cursor with all the fields you are required to fill in the
given PDF
3) search internet for the font used for that PDF
4) create a VFP Report, where you put the images you have colleted at their
place like on the given PDF
5) set all the captions as on the given PDF to the text as in the font as
6) set all the textboxes font as on the given PDF
7) save report, print and compare
A job which can be done in less than 1 hour. (maybe 1st time a little bit
longer, however when you know how-to certainly < 1 hour)
If you find problems with this approach, feel free to contact me.

Koen

Post by Frank Cazabon
If you can get the PDF as a fillable PDF form you can then use PDFtk to
fill the form from VFP.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon

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image. And if I use a jpg file instead, it will not allow me to make it

fit

Post by Rafael Copquin
in the page with the right shape.
Rafael
)

Post by Alan Bourke
whatever?
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Ted Roche

2018-09-14 17:01:37 UTC

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Frank,
Ted is completely correct.

I keep telling you guys... <grin>
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Frank Cazabon

2018-09-14 17:14:53 UTC

Koen,

it's not me asking for help, it's Rafael. I suggested PDFtk as I use it
in some systems. Dead simple to implement, maybe 30 minutes tops if you
program slowly.

Frank.

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Post by Koen Piller
Frank,
Ted is completely correct.
1) scan your given PDF form and extract the different images from that
file into separate .jpg files
2) create a dbf/cursor with all the fields you are required to fill in the
given PDF
3) search internet for the font used for that PDF
4) create a VFP Report, where you put the images you have colleted at their
place like on the given PDF
5) set all the captions as on the given PDF to the text as in the font as
6) set all the textboxes font as on the given PDF
7) save report, print and compare
A job which can be done in less than 1 hour. (maybe 1st time a little bit
longer, however when you know how-to certainly < 1 hour)
If you find problems with this approach, feel free to contact me.
Koen

Post by Frank Cazabon
If you can get the PDF as a fillable PDF form you can then use PDFtk to
fill the form from VFP.
Frank.
Frank Cazabon

Post by Rafael Copquin
image. And if I use a jpg file instead, it will not allow me to make it

fit

Post by Rafael Copquin
in the page with the right shape.
Rafael
)

Post by Alan Bourke
whatever?
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Rafael Copquin

2018-09-14 18:36:35 UTC

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Ted Roche

2018-09-14 15:23:40 UTC

The advice is pretty good, "don't do this unless you have to."

My clients have shipped a quarter-million PDFs with data merged from a
database app. so I've given this a bit of thought.

Using an image as a background is the worst possible solution short of
writing out the receipts by hand and postal-mailing them.

The image is large, it's usually poorly focused, it's rarely well-aligned
and it will look like poo when printed at the other end.

Rather than mix analog (the scanned image) and digital content, you can use
the VFP report writer, original hi-res logos, and a PDF printer to put out
clean text and high-resolution graphics.

Or you could redesign the form in another tool, like Word or LibreOffice or
Draw and convert it to a data form with CutePDF Professional and merge data
into the PDF with Adobe's (expensive) tools or something like pdftk (free
but more complex). That's a LOT more work, and I don't recommend it, unless
there's some reason you can't use VFP and/or XFRX or Foxy. ( I had to go
this way because app was PHP, not Fox)

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Man-wai Chang

2018-09-14 09:36:48 UTC

Check out freeware virtual PDF printers? Even if you needed to pay for
commercial use, they were cheap.

https://www.google.com/search?q=freeware+pdf+printer

In Window$ 10, there is a Microsoft Print To PDF in Printers and
Scanners section.

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