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OT: IBM to buy RedHat
Ted Roche
2018-10-29 12:50:21 UTC
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I suppose it could be worse: it could have been Computer Associates. Or
Oracle, or HP or *shudder* Microsoft..

Reactions over the weekend have mostly been dread from the employees, who
of course, can't be sure what happens next.

This was, reportedly, the largest software acquisition ever, at $34 Billion
dollars.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Kevin J Cully
2018-10-29 13:24:32 UTC
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Yes, I was a bit disappointed to hear the news. I always held up RedHat as a champion of Linux and as a successful business model riding on top of open source offerings. I like that. I would guess I'd say that I have guarded optimism. Unfortunately I think this is IBM's ball to fumble. On one side, I think this adds legitimacy to Linux operating in business here in the USA, which hasn't seemed to publicly be Linux friendly up to this point. On the other hand, all they mention is the RedHat cloud services. I'd like to see more Linux in businesses from the desktop to the servers to the cloud.

We'll see what happens.

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I suppose it could be worse: it could have been Computer Associates. Or Oracle, or HP or *shudder* Microsoft..

Reactions over the weekend have mostly been dread from the employees, who of course, can't be sure what happens next.

This was, reportedly, the largest software acquisition ever, at $34 Billion dollars.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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Ed Leafe
2018-10-29 14:05:45 UTC
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Post by Kevin J Cully
On one side, I think this adds legitimacy to Linux operating in business here in the USA, which hasn't seemed to publicly be Linux friendly up to this point. On the other hand, all they mention is the RedHat cloud services. I'd like to see more Linux in businesses from the desktop to the servers to the cloud.
Most of IBM’s customers are big enterprises, and a very high percentage of them run Linux. Most prefer RHEL, since that comes with support. One of the tasks my team is working on is making sure that RH products run as well on IBM Power systems as they do on x86 systems, so that IBM can sell more hardware.


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Kevin J Cully
2018-10-30 13:02:42 UTC
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Check out this vlog by Bryan Lunduke on the IBM purchase of Red Hat. He has some interesting insights.


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On one side, I think this adds legitimacy to Linux operating in business here in the USA, which hasn't seemed to publicly be Linux friendly up to this point. On the other hand, all they mention is the RedHat cloud services. I'd like to see more Linux in businesses from the desktop to the servers to the cloud.
Most of IBM’s customers are big enterprises, and a very high percentage of them run Linux. Most prefer RHEL, since that comes with support. One of the tasks my team is working on is making sure that RH products run as well on IBM Power systems as they do on x86 systems, so that IBM can sell more hardware.


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Ted Roche
2018-10-31 21:06:21 UTC
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For another out-from-left-field view of the situation, consider: "Red Hat
takes over IBM:"

https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm
Post by Kevin J Cully
Check out this vlog by Bryan Lunduke on the IBM purchase of Red Hat. He
has some interesting insights.
http://youtu.be/puMRgrP5IR8
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Post by Kevin J Cully
On one side, I think this adds legitimacy to Linux operating in business
here in the USA, which hasn't seemed to publicly be Linux friendly up to
this point. On the other hand, all they mention is the RedHat cloud
services. I'd like to see more Linux in businesses from the desktop to the
servers to the cloud.
Most of IBM’s customers are big enterprises, and a very high percentage of
them run Linux. Most prefer RHEL, since that comes with support. One of the
tasks my team is working on is making sure that RH products run as well on
IBM Power systems as they do on x86 systems, so that IBM can sell more
hardware.
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Man-wai Chang
2018-11-01 04:17:28 UTC
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Post by Ted Roche
For another out-from-left-field view of the situation, consider: "Red Hat
takes over IBM:"
https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm
Caldera OpenLinux and SCO Xenix? :)

No... IBM is a lot bigger and IBM mainframes are still the backbone of
banking systems and Fintech.
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Ed Leafe
2018-11-01 15:17:44 UTC
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Post by Ted Roche
For another out-from-left-field view of the situation, consider: "Red Hat
takes over IBM:"
https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm
He’s basically updating the “Apple buys NeXT” story from the mid-90s. Apple was much bigger and better known, but was having some financial woes after some management mis-steps. Within a couple of years, nearly every Apple exec was gone, replaced by people from NeXT. The Mac OS was replaced by NeXTSTEP, which was re-christened as OS X.

Hey, I guess it could happen. ;-)


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Ted Roche
2018-11-07 16:49:20 UTC
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Hey, I guess it could happen. ;-)
Past history is no guarantee of future performance.
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Gene Wirchenko
2018-11-07 19:14:19 UTC
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Hey, I guess it could happen. ;-)
Past history is no guarantee of future performance.
OTOH, there is that line about insanity.

Sincerely,

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Ted Roche
2018-11-07 19:42:20 UTC
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OTOH, there is that line about insanity.
Oh, you mean: https://twitter.com/tedroche/status/701896005332168705
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Gene Wirchenko
2018-11-09 01:18:11 UTC
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OTOH, there is that line about insanity.
Oh, you mean: https://twitter.com/tedroche/status/701896005332168705
Yes.

(Were you expecting any other answer? Be honest.)

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