Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

[Gene Wirchenko]

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I
wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to
E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and
attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but
when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few
minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is
generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the
operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send
through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me
know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Koen Piller]

Post your question in Foxite or Tektips in the hope Mike Gagnon will
notice, he is the expert TP know such Outlook questions
Koen

Post by Gene Wirchenko
I have an in-house client billing system application that I
wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to
E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and
attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.
Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.
Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but
when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few
minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is
generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the
operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.
Is there any way to get around this delay and still send
through automation in the VFP program?
If i have left out any significant details, please let me
know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko

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An autocorrection misbehavior please read to know I/o TP know

Post by Koen Piller
Post your question in Foxite or Tektips in the hope Mike Gagnon will
notice, he is the expert TP know such Outlook questions
Koen

Post by Gene Wirchenko
I have an in-house client billing system application that I
wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to
E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and
attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.
Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.
Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but
when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few
minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is
generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the
operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.
Is there any way to get around this delay and still send
through automation in the VFP program?
If i have left out any significant details, please let me
know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko

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[Chris Davis]

Are there any messages or dialogues displayed or is it simply just a delay?

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Subject: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Alan Bourke]

Post by Chris Davis
This program composes an E-mail and attaches the
appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

How exactly - MAPI, the Outlook object model, etc?
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[Gene Wirchenko]

Post by Alan Bourke

Post by Chris Davis
This program composes an E-mail and attaches the
appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

How exactly - MAPI, the Outlook object model, etc?

I do not know. I assume the Outlook object model, because I am
creating and manipulating objects. I got the basic code out of a
Hertzenwerke book.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Kevin J Cully]

Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using a transactional email service might be an approach to consider. Depending on how many invoices you are sending, it could cost less than $40 per month. I've seen a demo and it is wicket fast.

https://mandrill.com/

hth,
Kevin


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Subject: Office 2016 Outlook Problem: Throttled Output

Hello:

I have an in-house client billing system application that I wrote and maintain. It runs under VFP 9. One of the functions is to E-mail invoices and reports. This program composes an E-mail and attaches the appropriate files accessing Outlook through automation.

Production was using Outlook 2010. That worked fine.

Production now has Office 2016 Outlook. This still works, but when sending the E-mail through automation, there is a delay of a few minutes. This is for *just one* E-mail. When, instead, a E-mail is generated and saved through the VFP program and then sent by the operator manually in Outlook, there is no delay.

Is there any way to get around this delay and still send through automation in the VFP program?

If i have left out any significant details, please let me know. I do not know Outlook nearly as well as I know VFP.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Alan Bourke]

Post by Kevin J Cully
Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during
every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using
a transactional email service might be an approach to consider.

This is definitely the way to go these days for bulk sending. Outlook, and specifically Outlook connected to hosted Exchange, is not designed to do bulk sends.

If you look at a service like SendGrid, you can set up HTML templates to handle your company logos and stationery and achieve mail-merge type functionality, it has an excellent API that you can pump the raw email information and attachments into, it will handle all the re-sending and reporting on failed sends, and it's inexpensive even for hundreds of thousands of mails. There is a small pain point in setting up DKIM\SPF so that they can send emails on your domain's behalf but beyond that it works extremely well.
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[Gene Wirchenko]

Post by Alan Bourke

Post by Kevin J Cully
Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during
every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps using
a transactional email service might be an approach to consider.

This is definitely the way to go these days for bulk sending.
Outlook, and specifically Outlook connected to hosted Exchange, is
not designed to do bulk sends.

The problem happens on the *first* E-mail.

We are not doing bulk sends. Each of the E-mails is
different. They are monthly invoices and possibly some other
reports. There are less than 100 of them, and they are sent one at a
time as they get completed.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[m***@morchellas.com]

Didn't follow this whole thread but I see the "first email" problem and the
Outlook model and I recognize this as we used this for 15+ years.
Start Outlook once a day. Send your monitoring account the first email. Let
it run all day.


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Post by Alan Bourke

Post by Kevin J Cully
Instead of using Outlook automation, and risking it breaking during
every upgrade, and potentially being marked as a spammer, perhaps
using a transactional email service might be an approach to consider.

This is definitely the way to go these days for bulk sending.
Outlook, and specifically Outlook connected to hosted Exchange, is not
designed to do bulk sends.

The problem happens on the *first* E-mail.

We are not doing bulk sends. Each of the E-mails is different. They
are monthly invoices and possibly some other reports. There are less than
100 of them, and they are sent one at a time as they get completed.

[snip]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Gene Wirchenko]

Post by Chris Davis
Are there any messages or dialogues displayed or is it simply just a delay?

He did not say anything about a message, so I assume not.

[snipped previous]

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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