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[ADMIN] Testing
Ken Dibble
2018-03-27 19:30:38 UTC
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Not receiving my own posts?


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Richard Kaye
2018-03-27 19:41:33 UTC
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Some of us are.

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Paul H. Tarver
2018-03-27 19:44:52 UTC
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Got it!

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Tracy Pearson
2018-03-27 19:56:37 UTC
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It's a setting of the list-serve. If I remember right, it's off by default.

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Ken Dibble
2018-03-27 20:00:25 UTC
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I always receive my own posts from ProFox. I may have set it years
ago but certainly have not changed the setting since then.
Post by Tracy Pearson
It's a setting of the list-serve. If I remember right, it's off by default.
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Ed Leafe
2018-03-27 21:14:41 UTC
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Post by Tracy Pearson
It's a setting of the list-serve. If I remember right, it's off by default.
The default for lists on my server is to get a copy of your own posts. You can change that if you wish.

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Ted Roche
2018-03-27 20:06:41 UTC
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Post by Ken Dibble
Not receiving my own posts?
Well, you already know what they say, right?
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Ted Roche
2018-03-27 20:09:56 UTC
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I, otoh, am seeing my posts, so it's probably not a global change in
maillist behavior.
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Post by Ken Dibble
Not receiving my own posts?
Well, you already know what they say, right?
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Ken Dibble
2018-03-27 20:20:05 UTC
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No, it's some peculiarity in my text and/or subject line that some
filter's RegEx code did not anticipate, I'm sure.

Around Christmas I sent a long email to my brother with about 20
links to Christmas songs on YouTube pages, interspersed with
commentary. His email server kept rejecting the message. I eventually
broke it down to one of those links by sending them to him one at a
time. The one that didn't go through was not immediately
distinguishable from any of the others, just another string of random
characters, but his ISP insisted on rejecting it, over and over and over.

It was a legitimate YouTube link like all the others; click it, the
song played, without any unintended or unexpected other results.

This is what we have come to in our quests to defeat spam--and the
longer this type of strategy is followed--the higher the percentages
of legitimate messages that won't be delivered, eventually rendering
email useless.

Ah well...

Ed, if you see any of my messages, please see if my original one is
stuck in the filter.

Thanks.

Ken
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I, otoh, am seeing my posts, so it's probably not a global change in
maillist behavior.
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Post by Ken Dibble
Not receiving my own posts?
Well, you already know what they say, right?
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Ed Leafe
2018-03-27 21:19:52 UTC
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Ed, if you see any of my messages, please see if my original one is stuck in the filter.
Yes, it was marked as spam. I’ll send the first and delete the dupes.


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Ken Dibble
2018-03-28 00:01:19 UTC
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Yes, it was marked as spam. I’ll send the first and delete the dupes.
Thanks very much, Ed.

Ken


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Paul H. Tarver
2018-03-27 20:12:13 UTC
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More importantly, who are "THEY"?

Paul

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Not receiving my own posts?
Well, you already know what they say, right?
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Ken Dibble
2018-03-27 20:10:04 UTC
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Post by Ken Dibble
Not receiving my own posts?
I don't think it likes my subject line. I'll try resending with a
different subject.


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Ken Dibble
2018-03-27 20:05:32 UTC
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Post by Ken Dibble
Not receiving my own posts?
The message to which I am replying was sent out at 3:30 pm EDT March
27 2018. It's in the ProFox archive. I received it almost
immediately. Others have seen it and replied.

I sent a message at 2:21 pm EDT March 27 2018 with subject: "Get
Method Issue with Hidden Property". As of 4:04 pm that message is not
in the archive and has not arrived back to me.

I resent that message at 3:51 pm EDT March 27 2018. As of 4:04 pm
that message is also not in the archive and has not arrived back to
me. (And I've already received my own reply to Tracy...)

Somebody will probably say "email is not guaranteed to be
instantaneous, yadda yadda, who knows what could be wrong with all
the newfangled filtering, yadda yadda, it's probably at your end,
yadda yadda...

I've been subscribed to ProFox since I still had some red hair. In
EVERY SINGLE CASE where a message I sent to ProFox did not show up in
under a minute, the problem has been, in EVERY SINGLE CASE, a problem
at the ProFox server. :) It has NEVER been anything else.

So, Ed, please take a look and see what happened to my messages.

Thanks!

Ken



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Gene Wirchenko
2018-03-27 23:36:20 UTC
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At 13:05 2018-03-27, Ken Dibble <***@stny.rr.com> wrote:

[snip]
Post by Ken Dibble
Somebody will probably say "email is not guaranteed to be
instantaneous, yadda yadda, who knows what could be wrong with all
the newfangled filtering, yadda yadda, it's probably at your end,
yadda yadda...
I've been subscribed to ProFox since I still had some red hair. In
EVERY SINGLE CASE where a message I sent to ProFox did not show up
in under a minute, the problem has been, in EVERY SINGLE CASE, a
problem at the ProFox server. :) It has NEVER been anything else.
So, Ed, please take a look and see what happened to my messages.
Ed, I am having similar problems. I E-mailed you twice about
this, and I have not received a reply. What is going on?

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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Ed Leafe
2018-03-28 01:53:13 UTC
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Post by Ken Dibble
So, Ed, please take a look and see what happened to my messages.
Ed, I am having similar problems. I E-mailed you twice about this, and I have not received a reply. What is going on?
I got emails from you a few months ago. I re-enabled your subscription, and wrote back to inform you. Did you never get my reply?


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AndyHC
2018-03-28 09:28:03 UTC
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Well gMail always blocks them - I just set Thunderbird to copy them to
my inbox
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Fernando D. Bozzo
2018-03-28 14:11:05 UTC
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Because Gmail by default treat ProFox email as spam, I am using what Ted
once wrote, about adding ProFox to the contacts list, and from then I have
no more ProFox emails in Spam.

Another option in Gmail is creating a filter and checking "Never mark this
as spam". I have many lists like this.
Well gMail always blocks them - I just set Thunderbird to copy them to my
inbox
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Man-wai Chang
2018-03-29 11:27:38 UTC
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CONTACT....
Got this one....
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