[NF] Server OS in a VM on a client OS box

[Michael Glassman]

Hi, all! I need some advice as to whether or not this will work.

Our company runs shipping software (ProShip Server) on a Windows Server 2008 (not R2) computer. Unfortunately, the system requirements for this software have been recently upgraded, so that I need a 2012, 2012 R2, or 2016 server instead. As getting a new server would take several weeks to order and provision, I am wondering if I can install one of these server versions as a virtual machine on a spare Windows 7 machine that I already have.

I've never tried this on a production server. Will it work? Are there any pitfalls I need to be aware of?

Thanks in advance.

Mike


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[Alan Bourke]

Post by Michael Glassman
I've never tried this on a production server. Will it work? Are there
any pitfalls I need to be aware of?

Yes it will work, you can install anything in a VM. It will likely be a slow as molasses. The minimum RAM requirement will be 2GB so I wouldn't even bother on a machine with less than 8GB.
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[Eric Selje]

Definitely second Malcolm's suggestion. It'd take 10 minutes to set up on
AWS or Azure.

Eric

Post by Alan Bourke

Post by Michael Glassman
I've never tried this on a production server. Will it work? Are there
any pitfalls I need to be aware of?

Yes it will work, you can install anything in a VM. It will likely be a
slow as molasses. The minimum RAM requirement will be 2GB so I wouldn't
even bother on a machine with less than 8GB.
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Alan Bourke
alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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[Paul Hemans]

I've been running 32 bit servers within a Ubuntu 64 bit machine and been
pleasantly surprised at performance.

Post by Alan Bourke

Post by Michael Glassman
I've never tried this on a production server. Will it work? Are there
any pitfalls I need to be aware of?

Yes it will work, you can install anything in a VM. It will likely be a
slow as molasses. The minimum RAM requirement will be 2GB so I wouldn't
even bother on a machine with less than 8GB.
--
Alan Bourke
alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

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[Dave Crozier]

If you are using Windows 7 or 10 Pro then you need to download the Hypervisor after which you can add a VM no problem. When you get the final production server you can migrate it over seamlessly, assuming you are using Hyper-V which is free.

As said by others, give the VM a shed load of RAM if possible and you have to pick a processor that supports virtualisation of course.

Yes, it will work but don't expect server performance.

Personally I'd go for 2012 R2 which is very stable with any SQL version (Assuming Microsoft SQL is being used.

Dave Crozier
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Flexipol Packaging Ltd.


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Subject: [NF] Server OS in a VM on a client OS box

Hi, all! I need some advice as to whether or not this will work.

Our company runs shipping software (ProShip Server) on a Windows Server 2008 (not R2) computer. Unfortunately, the system requirements for this software have been recently upgraded, so that I need a 2012, 2012 R2, or 2016 server instead. As getting a new server would take several weeks to order and provision, I am wondering if I can install one of these server versions as a virtual machine on a spare Windows 7 machine that I already have.

I've never tried this on a production server. Will it work? Are there any pitfalls I need to be aware of?

Thanks in advance.

Mike


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