Licensing strategy

[m***@mbsoftwaresolutions.com]

If you were marketing a vertical app and pricing it per license, would
you consider a license specific to the installed machine or keep track
of users logged in and make sure the active user count doesn't go over
the # of licenses the client purchased?

My VFP9SP2 app uses the latter, and goes against a MariaDB database.

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[Stephen Russell]

I agree with you in a simultaneous user license of N users.

You can then look at tracking days where user count exceeds agreement and
you charge a tiny daily fee for that. Instead of locking someone out of
working with it. That fee needs to be initialed in the contract as well.

If you were marketing a vertical app and pricing it per license, would you
consider a license specific to the installed machine or keep track of users
logged in and make sure the active user count doesn't go over the # of
licenses the client purchased?
My VFP9SP2 app uses the latter, and goes against a MariaDB database.

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Post by Stephen Russell
I agree with you in a simultaneous user license of N users.
You can then look at tracking days where user count exceeds agreement and
you charge a tiny daily fee for that. Instead of locking someone out of
working with it. That fee needs to be initialed in the contract as well.

Great tip...thanks, Stephen!

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[Carl Lindner]

Mike,

Not sure about Stephen's tip. Unless you are charging big bucks per user.

You would have to track - on a daily basis logged in users. Then, would
have to show those days where usage was exceeded. You would have variable
billing. Seems like a lot of work - depending on the incremental charge.
Then, billing could be questioned and you would have to answer. Might be
easier to license for n and allow for n+2 users or something like that.

Carl



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Post by Stephen Russell
I agree with you in a simultaneous user license of N users.
You can then look at tracking days where user count exceeds agreement and
you charge a tiny daily fee for that. Instead of locking someone out of
working with it. That fee needs to be initialed in the contract as well.

Great tip...thanks, Stephen!

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[Thierry Nivelet]

standard feature in FoxInCloud; see

@ 4:48

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Post by Carl Lindner
Seems like a lot of work - depending on the incremental charge

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[Stephen Russell]

If you cannot track something as simple as user counts..............

Post by Carl Lindner
Mike,
Not sure about Stephen's tip. Unless you are charging big bucks per user.
You would have to track - on a daily basis logged in users. Then, would
have to show those days where usage was exceeded. You would have variable
billing. Seems like a lot of work - depending on the incremental charge.
Then, billing could be questioned and you would have to answer. Might be
easier to license for n and allow for n+2 users or something like that.
Carl
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Post by Stephen Russell
I agree with you in a simultaneous user license of N users.
You can then look at tracking days where user count exceeds agreement and
you charge a tiny daily fee for that. Instead of locking someone out of
working with it. That fee needs to be initialed in the contract as well.

Great tip...thanks, Stephen!

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Post by Carl Lindner
Mike,
Not sure about Stephen's tip. Unless you are charging big bucks per user.
You would have to track - on a daily basis logged in users. Then, would
have to show those days where usage was exceeded. You would have variable
billing. Seems like a lot of work - depending on the incremental charge.
Then, billing could be questioned and you would have to answer. Might be
easier to license for n and allow for n+2 users or something like that.
Carl

Hi Carl,

n <> n + 2....lol!

Seriously though...if you track license usage, then you already have
something in place for daily basis in users as you said. You could give
a kind warning, maybe giving them X warnings before a surcharge kicked
in. All done programatically (until the limit is met, and then you'd
manually bill them if they accepted some "WARNING: PROCEEDING WILL INCUR
A FEE OF $5 FOR THIS EXTRA USER BEYOND YOUR LICENSE LIMIT." or something
nicer and friendlier than that.

I don't think I would do that anyway, but it's an interesting
discussion.

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[Gene Wirchenko]

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Post by Carl Lindner
Mike,
Not sure about Stephen's tip. Unless you are charging big bucks per user.
You would have to track - on a daily basis logged in users. Then, would
have to show those days where usage was exceeded. You would have variable
billing. Seems like a lot of work - depending on the incremental charge.
Then, billing could be questioned and you would have to answer. Might be
easier to license for n and allow for n+2 users or something like that.

n <> n + 2....lol!
Seriously though...if you track license usage, then you already have
something in place for daily basis in users as you said. You could
give a kind warning, maybe giving them X warnings before a surcharge
kicked in. All done programatically (until the limit is met, and
PROCEEDING WILL INCUR A FEE OF $5 FOR THIS EXTRA USER BEYOND YOUR
LICENSE LIMIT." or something nicer and friendlier than that.
I don't think I would do that anyway, but it's an interesting discussion.

I do not think that that would be workable. If there are that
many users, the end user who would "proceed" likely does not have
authorisation to incur expenses on behalf of the client. The client
might well repudiate the charge and could have good legal grounds to
do so. (It is not reasonable to expect a clerk to have such authorisation.)

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko


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[Thierry Nivelet]

When user count exceeds agreement, FoxInCloud sends an email; then sales
people talk with the client about the license extension he needs.

(works for FoxInCloud, his clients, client's clients and so on)

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Post by Stephen Russell
I agree with you in a simultaneous user license of N users.
You can then look at tracking days where user count exceeds agreement and
you charge a tiny daily fee for that. Instead of locking someone out of
working with it. That fee needs to be initialed in the contract as well.

If you were marketing a vertical app and pricing it per license, would you
consider a license specific to the installed machine or keep track of users
logged in and make sure the active user count doesn't go over the # of
licenses the client purchased?
My VFP9SP2 app uses the latter, and goes against a MariaDB database.

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[Thierry Nivelet]

license per concurrent user also works for web deployment

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If you were marketing a vertical app and pricing it per license, would
you consider a license specific to the installed machine or keep track
of users logged in and make sure the active user count doesn't go over
the # of licenses the client purchased?
My VFP9SP2 app uses the latter, and goes against a MariaDB database.

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[José Enrique Llopis]

My real Estate app uses two different licensing schemas:

Per installed PC
Per concurrent user when installed on a Remote Desktop / Terminal Server
system.


Jose Enrique Llopis
www.multilinkcrm.com





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license per concurrent user also works for web deployment

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If you were marketing a vertical app and pricing it per license, would
you consider a license specific to the installed machine or keep track
of users logged in and make sure the active user count doesn't go over
the # of licenses the client purchased?
My VFP9SP2 app uses the latter, and goes against a MariaDB database.

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